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May 12th, 2003


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12:01 am
this is fucking awful, and very representative of the current state of our country.
and with that, I'm off to bed.
mood: bitchybitchy
music: puter hummmmm

(16 bits of drivel | babble incoherently)

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From:nata5
Date:May 12th, 2003 12:12 am (UTC)
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Welcome to kindergarden, here is your uniform, please take your seat, and don't speak for the next 18 years. If you speak a free thought or wear something that makes you an individual from your fellow studesnts you will be removed and re-programed not to do such things.

The moment of hate is about to begin please gather together.

I hope that the parents pulled thier kids from that school and sued the teacher and school.
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From:inahandbasket
Date:May 12th, 2003 05:05 am (UTC)
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frighteningly truthful sir.
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From:kyrelle
Date:May 12th, 2003 12:16 am (UTC)
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Yikes.

I feel like our government is kind of forgeting the major principles upon which it was founded. Wasn't it Jefferson who said that is we DIDN'T question the actions of our government we were being irresponsible?

Bleh.
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From:miyyu
Date:May 12th, 2003 05:55 am (UTC)
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This is more reiteration for me for why I want to teach -- there need to be more people with brains and backbones in the schools to encourage and it seems protect students.
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From:inahandbasket
Date:May 12th, 2003 07:07 am (UTC)
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*two thumbs up*
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From:miyyu
Date:May 12th, 2003 08:41 am (UTC)
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Thank you :) Now if only someone in a school would hire me for the fall all would be well.
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From:jimmi_obadger
Date:May 12th, 2003 09:26 am (UTC)
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Philadelphia public schools are desperate. Decent pay, good health benefits, retirement plan, DP coverage. They've even waived the residency requirement.

What do you want to teach?
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From:miyyu
Date:May 12th, 2003 09:55 am (UTC)
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The issue is I live a good hour outside Philly. I did grad school and student teaching there and the commute was miserable. I also student taught in the district in "good" schools that were falling apart at the seams. I am avoiding working there if at all possible.

My certification is as a reading specialist -- basically I am qualified to work with kids with learning disabilities specific to reading, writing, and language (though not speech, that's a speech therapist).

I have applied a bunch of places around here... nothing yet, though I'm still waiting to hear from several.
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From:jimmi_obadger
Date:May 12th, 2003 09:59 am (UTC)
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My partner teaches at a Temple-controlled elementary school. It's hard, but it needs doing.
I understand about the commute, though. That would kill me.
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From:miyyu
Date:May 12th, 2003 10:32 am (UTC)
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I think I could honestly handle the stress if the commute weren't so miserable and expensive. City schools have such a huge need, I feel a bit irresponsible not teaching in one. But between the stress and the commute I think I would lose it. I think I could only handle one or the other.

It's good that your friend is at one of the university controlled schools. I have heard horror stories about some of the Edison ones.
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From:axessdenyd
Date:May 12th, 2003 06:59 am (UTC)
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Now on the one hand you have the liberal paper saying that students were "criticizing" the president, therefore they should be destroyed...

...and on the other hand, the only thing making reference to what the students actually said was a quote from the teacher saying that they threatened the President's life. Now, it's always been against US law to make a threat on the President. Even though it might've been stupid for the teacher to call and report it since those kids are most likely not capable of carrying out such a threat, the secret service by law must investigate such threats. Even though they didn't seem to do it in a very good way.
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From:miyyu
Date:May 12th, 2003 07:05 am (UTC)
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It would help had either presented a quote, or as close to it as possible, of what the students actually said.
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From:inahandbasket
Date:May 12th, 2003 07:06 am (UTC)
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they were probably discussing politics, and one of the chilluns said "I'd pop a cap in his ass for bein so stupid" or something.
my point is, this country has gone completely paranoid and insane.
Operation TIPS
Civil rights issues
now censoring students instead of teaching them why they shouldn't do that.
if this were some random people on the street, I'd be fine with it. This was a teacher and her students. That's just fucked up.
From:nata5
Date:May 12th, 2003 08:09 am (UTC)
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Fact: To be question by auhtority (police, fbi etc) and you are under the age of 18 you must have a parent or guardian present in order to 1. Have them allow or dis-allow the questioning. and 2. To convey the situation to the child. Any questions asked without this done are out of line and the school and secret service should be held responsible.

Fact: The teacher should have reported this to his/her superior for at the least a second opinion. Since the teacher is not be backed by his/her peers then I doubt this was done.

Fact: The homeland security act does allow for detaining of suspects to terrorism but the legal age still falls on 18 and the parents would still have need to be notified. Though the secret services response to thier request for counsel was a scare tactic and not within the bounds of the homeland security act or law.

But hey they might turn out to be terrorists one day. I would think more so now since thier free speech has been stifled.(sp?) The entire issue yells court battle for damages. At the least the kids should be put through college for the "We own you comment" alone.
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From:miyyu
Date:May 12th, 2003 08:43 am (UTC)
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Clearly that teacher didn't have his/her head on straight for that one. There is an ethical responsibility as a teacher to maintain the balance between keeping your classroom safe (physically, mentally, emotionally, etc.) for your students and keeping it an open place for discussion held to a standard of academic integrity. I would argue that they need not conflict, but many people seem to think that they do.

The questioning was very much out of line. And, for the record, the Homeland Security Act scares the living shit out of me.
From:nata5
Date:May 12th, 2003 09:47 am (UTC)
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The Homeland security act is bad .. but the other laws that were pushed through on its back are even worse. The Cybersecurity act (i think that is the name might be off a bit) allows for hackers to be placed in prision for life sentences, a skinny little pale punk in for life and no one died. Couple that with the Homeland act and you pretty much have lost all of your rights to a fair trial. DMCA which makes it fun for you to copy music, images, present security flaws to the world ... etc etc etc and now we have the advent of states passing mini DMCAs. These are pure evil that allow companies more reach than ever before.

America home of the Big Corporations and the Goverment that is here to keep "You (thier money)" safe unless you meet a racial profile then men in suits will be coming to speak to you.

Ahh it feels great to pay for this. I see my tax money doing great things. /sarcasm
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