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September 24th, 2003


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10:20 am

This is in response to a post by 9mm, found here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/9mm/809368.html


I go back in time to 1980 (when I was born) and do absolutely nothing and interact with absolute nothing except I carve my name into a tree deep in the woods behind my house. I come back to now, and i go see said tree, and it's got my name on it. volia.
so maybe I changed some air patterns, but nothing significant will come of it. maybe it rained in seattle for an extra day in 1992.

Now.

2 things.
#1, if time travel is ever invented, it will exist in all times at once, simply due to the fact that if it exists, people will use it. Everyone will want to go see the pyramids being built, but that only exists at one point in time, and so they'd all pile up on eachother and there'd be some evidence. thus the fact that we have not found any evidence of time travel in the present or the past or the distant past means that either it will never exist in our universe, or they're really good at cleaning up after themselves. (not bloody likely)

#2, what if the future IS set in stone?
Ok, seems unlikely, but consider it this way.
Hypothesis: the interaction of all bits of matter and energy are governed by certain laws. Those laws can be mathematically defined.
Therefore:
The so called "free choice" of conscious beings is really influenced by all of their input over the course of their lifetime (aka, your past experiences determine what you will do in certain circumstances, even sitting there consciously deciding to do something contrary is predicted because everything in your life has lead up to that point). Given that, the entire universe could be run as a simulated model on a sufficently powerful computer (impossible, but this is theory remember) and therefore everything that has ever happened or will happen is already set in stone, simply because all of the interactions of all bits of matter and energy are known, including those interactions inside the human brain. Free will is an illusion, but that doesn't make it any less real. You CAN choose what you will do, it's just that a sufficiently advanced model of the universe would know what you would choose before you chose it.
Everything was set at the big bang.
mood: accomplishedaccomplished

(19 bits of drivel | babble incoherently)

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From:andthoughtstoo
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:30 am (UTC)
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It is illegal to be thinking right now.
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From:inahandbasket
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:35 am (UTC)
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I'm reading 1984, you're not helping.
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From:jimmi_obadger
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:40 am (UTC)
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Oh, hey. I'm supposed to tell you that she's not a psycho.
(Now maybe she'll let me out of this oubliette.)
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From:inahandbasket
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:43 am (UTC)
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hehe...
I don't believe you! she's completely nutzor.
;o)

Oh, by the way. do you think my rusty 'ole bike chain can be revived? or am I gonna have to replace it?
From:andthoughtstoo
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:49 am (UTC)
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Eh! I'm right here! I can hear you talking about me.
Put the lotion in the basket!
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From:jimmi_obadger
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:50 am (UTC)
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Okay. Bike chain = expendable part. If you're riding regularly, you're supposed to change it every year or so.

That said, i have no idea. Is it stretched out? Are your gears starting to wear down? When you hold a ruler up to it, do you get exactly twelve links to six inches, measuring from pin to pin?

Um... short answer: you could probably soak it in WD40 and make it go again, but you should check it out and see if it's a replacement canidate anyway.
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From:inahandbasket
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:56 am (UTC)
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the rear gear cassette is pretty banged up, should probably be replaced, and it's the original chain. it's about... oh... 12-15 years old.
*grin*

So you're saying I should replace it. I see how it is.
Unfortunatly I need to ride down to 9th and bainbridge tonight, I don't really have time to soak it let alone replace it. I just have to suffer it's random pops for the evening I guess.
From:andthoughtstoo
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:48 am (UTC)
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i thought i told you to be Quiet!

From:andthoughtstoo
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:46 am (UTC)
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well, i was trying to nap and you posted that whole intellectual time travel thing. big words not good for little brain this morning.
*snore*
(not directed at you, mind you.)
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From:chrissmari
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:40 am (UTC)
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yeah i added you to my friends list because two people mentioned you in the space of 20 minutes
that and i should have done it like..
years ago.
chrissy
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From:inahandbasket
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:44 am (UTC)
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*waves*
hi!
i've been posting again lately, don't expect it to continue. I LJ in spurts. ;o)
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From:chrissmari
Date:September 24th, 2003 07:45 am (UTC)
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I lj in spurts... all day long :'(
hahaha hopefully to be rectified when i am among the gainfully employed.

heh i said "rectified"
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From:corvus
Date:September 24th, 2003 03:29 pm (UTC)
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*tag* you're it!
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From:axessdenyd
Date:September 24th, 2003 01:14 pm (UTC)
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Given that, the entire universe could be run as a simulated model on a sufficently powerful computer (impossible, but this is theory remember)

Impossible? Why so?

Many people believe this, they just call the computer "God" and build little houses for him.
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From:inahandbasket
Date:September 24th, 2003 01:34 pm (UTC)
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impossible because the computer would essentially have to be as large as the universe. We may as well just call the universe a model of itself.
and "God" is theoretical might I remind you, so he fits into my statement quite nicely.
;o)
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From:axessdenyd
Date:September 24th, 2003 02:36 pm (UTC)
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Ah, well, see, who says that what we know as the universe isn't controlled from without?
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From:miyyu
Date:September 25th, 2003 08:18 am (UTC)
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Holy shit we agree on something else. That hole in the space-time continuum is opening ever wider...
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From:axessdenyd
Date:September 25th, 2003 08:38 am (UTC)
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Sneeeeeaky.
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From:transplantgn
Date:September 28th, 2003 09:08 pm (UTC)
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Okay I got threw that but I think my right brain and my left brain got crosssed once or twice and I had to ready it again
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