Still just AT&T right?

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as far as I know, yeah. That's why I'm waiting for unlocker. hehe

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I've been happily using mine with T-Mobile for 9 months now, though that did require installing software that presumably voided the warranty.

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Yeah, but the 3g ones have basically all new firmware, so it'll have to be hacked all over.
Granted that took about a week for the first rev. heh.

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But it's true, it took quite a while for the tools to get refined enough that I felt comfortable relying on them. (Sometimes I like monkeying around with computers, but I want my phone to Just Work.)

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T-Mobil is even lower on my list of cell providers than AT&T.

Really I would like to see the Japanese networks make it here, but until then we seem to be stuck with bad and worse.

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America's just too big sadly.
And T-mobile's a lot better than it was 5 years ago. Have you given them a chance recently?

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The crippling of the phones at Verizon really should not be excused, but they are the carrier I went with years ago and the one I stick with. I get signal almost everywhere I have been and now the family is also on the network so I get the benefits of that too.

AT&T has done better with their mergers, but I have still hear folks complain of coverage and they all switched to Verizon in the end.

T-Mobil seemed to be the city phone. If you are in the city it is great. I expect they have expanded some of their coverage, but I am not sure how great it is to be honest. The other things I have hear about T-Mobil are customer service nightmares. Broken phones that you can't take to the store and can only deal with over the phone....but the phone is broken....the wonderful infinite loop.

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3G? I always said I'd only get one if it supports quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE and tri-band HSPA. Also, MMS :oP

I love Apple and all, but I really think they put the product out before it was fully baked.

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3g, GPS, 300hr standby battery, 24hr audio, 5hr talk, exchange integration for push e-mail, blah blah.
engadget.com for more deets.

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I still bet you can't use them with gloves on.

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likely. ^_^
Luckily I hate gloves.

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That is a draw back of Capacitive touch-screens. The infrared technology for touch screens is really interesting, but requires real estate.

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And only 8 bucks a meg for data transfer up here!

1 gig a month costs 100, which is the highest end plan available in canada that I've ever found.

even 4 meg on a blackberry is about 40 a month.

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yeah, i may finally get one too!

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I just picked up a Curve back in December. I was tempted to get an iPhone at that time but the combination of a much higher price (my curve was $100 compared to $400 for the iPhone) and reports of the iPhone being fairly fragile made the decision for me.

I do think the iPhone is pretty damn cool but I don't know if I'll ever own one. I really like my keyboard and while I love Apple's computers, I've never been a fan of iPod's. I already have a Sony mp3 player that I love.

In the article they said 3g was only twice as fast... I as thinking it would be way faster. I know my Blackberry on EDGE is pretty damn slow.

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I have a curve as well, every iphone I've played with makes me regret it. heh.

And it's twice as fast as the old iPhone (Edge? GPRS?), which was already far faster than my curve when I side-by-sided with friends.

Don't get me wrong, I hate apple, and railed against ipods for many years, but I think they really hit one out of the park here and the pricing is just icing.

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I don't think I'm a serious enough geek for a iphone. I love mac stuff but I don't want to have to hack my phone or anything, I just want to be able to use it. Also, I have a really inexpensive plan that does not include internet. What do I really need an iphone for?

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Nothing apparently. hah!
I theoretically have the internet in my pants on my blackberry but it's painful to actually try to use. The taster though has got me hooked, I'd love iphone quality internet in my pants...

FYI: you only have to hack it if you don't use AT&T for your service.

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yeah. one of those. soon. :)

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