August 29th, 2008
aw crap. McCain was smart and picked a woman. Now he'll really steal all those stupid Hillary borg and "Democrats for McCain."
Why are the Republican's so much more savvy at manipulation?
If the Dems lose this election it'll be the biggest effing stuff-up in history.
Who? Do you have a link? I did a quick google for mccain vp and nothing came up.
It's Sarah Palin...check CNN
|Date:||August 29th, 2008 02:55 pm (UTC)|| |
yeah i can't believe how sneaky and smart that is.
|Date:||August 29th, 2008 02:56 pm (UTC)|| |
also i can't believe what morons some people are by not voting according to issues!
|Date:||August 29th, 2008 02:57 pm (UTC)|| |
yeah. what you said.
He's trying to get the Hillary voters. Which may work on some. But Sarah Palin is NOT Hillary Clinton.
Hillary voters are educated which means they will familiarize themselves with a Governor from Alaska (might as well be Siberia to people in Texas, California, Florida, The North East, and Siberia of all places...)
And these people will see what I just said, This woman is not what they saw in Hillary simply because she's female...
And hillary's platform is FAR closer to Obamas, yet there's a strong contingent of Hillary voters going for McCain?
It's not about the issues, the educated Hillary voters who care about issues are already on Obama's side exactly because of the issues.
Just my $.02
|Date:||August 29th, 2008 03:07 pm (UTC)|| |
Anyone who votes for McCain just because he picked a female VP gets no respect from me. Like many women, I would be profoundly gratified to see a female president, but I believe strongly that it's far less important what the president is, and far more important what he or she DOES.
I'm not ready to panic yet. Palin's name was getting bandied about for a while and for all that she's female, she seems to suffer from the same problem that dogged a lot of Obama's choices when there was some suggestion that he might pick a different female running mate to placate Hillary supporters. That being, it's hard to understand why she might be chosen other than cynical reasons. Other than her gender, she's the four-year governor of a not particularly key state (3 electoral votes?) with strong ties to oil. Admittedly she does add some youth to McCain's ticket, but I'm hoping that's not enough to give him any more bounce in the polls than he already has.
It's true, it might be misdirection still as well.
But she's been talked about as a big up and coming republican hope, so it wouldn't surprise me if McCain snapped her up to try to blunt some of Obama's "youthful draw."
Not the biggest stuff-up; not even second-biggest. Those honors go to the 2000 and 2004 elections. The ship has already hit the iceberg; the new captain will have little effect on its course. We don't get a do-over.
i'm moving to canada!
i'm not ready to give up yet. despite my experience, i just refuse to believe people will continue to be that stupid. and if americans are that stupid, this country deserves whatever it gets. that's the power of democracy!
I'm just relieved he didn't pick Condoleezza Rice. Confused, but relieved. Rice has name recognition, extensive experience in the international stage, political clout, supporters, and could take "demographics-voters" from all over the Democratic party. We would have been totally fucked. I think a lot of women who supported Clinton will see this relatively young and attractive woman beside the old geezer and will be offended on a gut level at the Trophy VP look. It's an especially odd choice because no one is exactly thinking "two terms" when they look at McCain's medical records, so this move removes the Rep.'s chance to try to claim inexperience in Obama's ticket.
If the Dems lose this one it will be due to Diebold.
Totally. It's like McCain decided "Hey, women are interchangeable, let's offer people who wanted hillary Some Gal and see if it works?"
|Date:||August 29th, 2008 09:20 pm (UTC)|| |
Dems are still weaker
Here's the thing. Democrats are and have always been so effing concerned about not pissing anyone off.
Republicans will gladly piss off anyone and everyone if it gets them their way.
Democrats and this includes Obama spend way too much time taking moderate stances and trying to placate everyone instead of being gutsy and standing up for a true liberal agenda.
I find it somewhat amusing that everyone is saying what a useless person Palin is and how she's just a "trophy" pick.
Personally I read her stances, I looked at her (admittedly short) record, and think I would vote for her for president if given the chance. She's made a big name for herself by clearing out corruption, getting rid of people in her own party who had unethical connections to oil, and is trying to cut out the moneywasting earmarks that states usually love to get (ie, bridge to nowhere).
Well said!!!! From what I've heard of her thus far, she's been kicking ass and taking names. I think the fact that she's from Alaska (actually from Idaho but has lived in AK for most of her life) helps her because she's not seen as a Washington insider. I've also read that she actually has more experience than Obama but I don't know the numbers for either.
I think she's an excellent pick for McCain and I know how sill this is going to sound, but I think this will be the deciding factor for me, and I'm sure a lot of other people. It's not because she's female as I don't give a crap about race, gender, religion, or any of the non-relevant stuff. I care about the issues and the integrity of the person. I'm not much of a McCain supporter and I disagree with him on a lot, but it's once again a choice between two people I like so I've gotta find some reason to vote one way or the other.